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25 August 2006 @ 02:26 am
New vid: Man or Animal - BtVS Oz/Angel/Xander/Spike - Audioslave  
Vid Title: Man or Animal
Artist/Song: Audioslave - "Man or Animal"
Duration: 4:02 wmv
Characters: Oz/Angel/Xander/Spike-Willow/Buffy/others
Summary: Passion turns the guys of BtVS into animals.

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This is just an elaboration on the running "guys in love/lust become animals" metaphor of the series. There are specific episodes that really went with it - The Pack, Innocence, Passion, Beauty & the Beasts, Wild At Heart, etc. But it was more or less a running thread throughout that the guys were all reluctant primal slaves to their passions, and because of that they were always destined to hurt the object of their affections.

The passion=primal storylines pretty much dominated S1-early S4, so that's where I got most of this footage. The exception was Spike, whose S4-S6 arc mirrored the earlier seasons for the other guys, so his scenes are from later in the series.

I was shooting for an over-the-top Jekyll & Hyde/Island of Dr. Moreau type of look for the vid. To that end, I tried a lot of new things with transitions, overlays, use of black, sound mixing, time toggle, coloring, custom effects, stills... you name it. I'm not at all comfortable with this amount of manipulation of source footage, but I'm satisfied that this is how the vid wanted to look. So blame it, not me. Oddly, I wound up with an uncut, effects-free 8-second shot as the climax of the action. It just seemed to fit, so I saw no reason to change it.

There's a short sound effect from "Jekyll & Hyde: The Complete Work" at the beginning along with a bit of the score from Hush.

The song just fit this theme so well that I felt like I had to do it, and it seemed like the right time to dive into this because it feels like a "goodbye to summer" thing.


Man or Animal - Audioslave, Out of Exile

You give me a heart attack
You look like the summertime
You call me an artifact
But I'll save that for another time

I could be rich or poor
I don't need anymore

Keep your love inside the kitchen
You can't feed me anything
Keep the feathers on the chicken
Peel the leather from your skin

I could be young or old
Sweet or sad, hot or cold

Man or animal, I don't care at all
Find the antidote underneath the dose
Man or animal
Obedient, out of control

I will love you more than money
I will breathe you in the smoke
I will drink you in my honey
Sweet and golden down my throat

When you're right, when you're wrong
Head is near, eyes are gone

You can drown my appetite
I will sip your tears at night
You can tie me to a chair
Skin and bones, I don't care

I could be rich or poor
I don't need anymore

Hope you enjoy the vid. Please share your thoughts.
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Annie: thanks for the timejustams on August 25th, 2006 11:13 am (UTC)
I loved all the effects, it really worked with the song and the theme. Adding to the list of my favourite videos. :D
bradcpubradcpu on August 25th, 2006 09:29 pm (UTC)
I'm glad you liked the effects. I don't usually use them so this was quite a change for me. I'm flattered that it's on you favorite vids list. :) Hope you keep enjoying it.
khameleon808 on August 25th, 2006 11:51 am (UTC)
Yea this was an interesting video. you kept a good pace and didnt lose interest. i like that lil luma/chroma effect you did. Keep it up :)
bradcpubradcpu on August 25th, 2006 09:31 pm (UTC)
Thanks a bunch! I thought it was really important to keep a frenetic pace for this one, so I really appreciate the comments on that front.
Jacqui: benny & joon boo radleywily_one24 on August 25th, 2006 12:13 pm (UTC)
Okay, so... I want to have your little vid babies.

But you already know this. I get that this didn't quite 'gel' with what you wanted and that you ended up giving reign to the vid itself, but it really did come across as spectacular.

The song has such a 'heartbeat' throbbing to it that you've etched well into the visual aspect and it works wonderfully to underscore the whole point of the vid.

Question, considering it's been such a long time since I've watched much buffy, but the early shot of the blood cells, was that from "Buffy Vs Dracula"? 'Cause that's the main blood pumping visual that I can think of. Most likely, I'm forgetting.

You were, as per usual, spot on in matching different visuals. Spike lifting the two bottles, for one. That jumps out at me. From shot to shot, and also from person to person. There were some wonderful matches and links and thematics criss crossing all the way through.

I can't say this is my fav of your vids, but it's definitely high up there.

Wonderful work, as usual. I'm so jealous, I could spit.
bradcpubradcpu on August 25th, 2006 09:59 pm (UTC)
You're just the greatest, you know that? I need to do another "for Jacqui." Oh, I've been thinking about remastering/re-editing Bring Me To Life in Ulead. Does that count?

Spectacular is good. Spectacular is a preferred adjective. Go with that. :) Seriously, I'm glad you enjoyed the presentation. I was doing things and cringing as I did them because everything I know about vidding was telling me "no," but I just felt like that's how it wanted to be.

The blood shot was from Buffy vs. Dracula, the "find your true nature" montage. It was like a half-second shot. Good eye! There were a lot of other visual matches that worked thematically and I wanted to get in, but either the movement wasn't as dramatic or they derailed the narrative.

I'm so happy you enjoyed this one. With all the different, the anxiety was big and the hopes were small. But I guess different is good... keeps everything from getting stagnant.
cyren_2132cyren_2132 on August 25th, 2006 06:34 pm (UTC)
How much did I love this? The heartbeat and fades at the beginning was great. I was a little unsure about that transitiony thing (don't mock my made-up phrases)at first, but then I got to :47, realized just how great it was, rewatched the vid, and loved it all the way through. It never ceases to amaze me how you find such similar shots and weave them together so well.

Great job.
bradcpubradcpu on August 25th, 2006 10:01 pm (UTC)
Thanks you. Sorry I couldn't give you a personal preview this time. I was a little unsure about the transitiony thing too (this is me stealing your made-up phrase), but in the past I've beaten myself up for not going all the way with my concepts. This was about as all-the-way as I could go, for better or worse.

Now come back and do my work for me so I can vid more!
Nickyobsessive24 on August 25th, 2006 10:24 pm (UTC)
You know, the longer the effects go on, the more hypnotic it became. It lures you into the flow of the vid. And it matched audio very well.

I LOVED how the visuals correlated to the audio, it was fantastic. My favourite sequence is from 2:38 onward with the "wahh, WAHH! Squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak squeak." Well, you know what I mean. The squeaks had me in stitches because it was so accurately matched, first with Oz charging down the hall and then with Drus spider-fingering up Angel, and then Angel doing his head shaky thing with that... uh... tattoo demon guy. :D

More timestamps:

Love the heartbeat motif right from the outset. And I liked the two matching sets: Oz&Xander, Angel&Spike.
0:09 - close-up of B's neck. Very nice.
0:13 - I liked how the pull-out matched the creaking.
The close-ups with the eyes are great! And then straight into the action.
0:31 - I love that still. It looks so effective because she's frozen in a moment of extreme motion, plus the bright/contrast worked really well too.
0:48 clip correlation is awesome!
"keep the feathers on the chicken" - that's a cute lyric match. Difficult, but I think you worked well with it.
1:11 - love that slowing there, and then the jump cuts. You're right, it does build tension. And I'm gradually becoming more and more enamoured of them.
1:25 - really like Oz finishing up on that chord there, and then the audio-cued overlays of him as people run away. Very nice!
1:45 - love that correlation there.
2:09 - Oooh! Love how the camera move carried through there! And then another lovely slowing of the clip.
2:12 - Oh, sexy!Xander. Another set of great jump cuts.
Great parallels with Xander and Oz and the "run" sequence.
(Random observation - my god, season 1!Willow runs like a man.)
The "squeak squeak" bit you already know about. My god, I love that so much. I really hope you had meant for it to be at least a little bit funny, because I laugh so hard each time I see it. It's grand.
Ooh, love wolf!Oz howling on that sustained note, going to him on the guitar holding the same note.
Another great set of parallels with Angel/Faith and Oz/Veruca. Bad influences all around!
3:05 - love that pan up (I know it's not a pan if it's going up, but for the life of me I can't remember what it's called), echoed by the pan down at 3:08.
Ooh, love the rapid jump cuts on the Jenny segment, which built in really nicely into the last chorus, and back to the heart motif.

I don't see it as misogynistic at all. Rather, there's this tremendous feeling of helplessness from the guys, as the girls (whether inadvertently or otherwise) start something, and then the animal just takes over, and it's horror for all.

Very swaggery! Definitely the look you were striving for, I think.
bradcpubradcpu on August 26th, 2006 10:05 am (UTC)
Hey - there's still a whee! Either that or I managed to blind you halfway through and you're just being optimistic about how it ended. I'm honestly surprised that you liked this one. Happy, of course, but surprised. At times during the editing it seemed like everything I was doing was a big no-no.

then Angel doing his head shaky thing with that... uh... tattoo demon guy
=) This vid's really bringing out the inner wordsmith in you and cyren_2134. I certainly intended for the vid to be funny. The characters themselves are very funny, and "horror" on Buffy is funny more times than not. But "real life" on Buffy is not, and there's always that tragic jolt of reality just around the corner. You totally nailed the idea for the vid with this line:
Rather, there's this tremendous feeling of helplessness from the guys, as the girls (whether inadvertently or otherwise) start something, and then the animal just takes over, and it's horror for all.
I was trying to say that over and over throughout but in an almost comedic way, like someone saying "no seriously, listen" more and more insistently as the mirth continues. Then at the end no one's laughing. Hopefully.

It's so super nice seeing the moments that you enjoyed the most (timestamps, how do I love thee?) Had a lot of fun with the bridge. That and the lyric ties in the verses were probably the two most fun things to edit. I'm glad you liked the "keep the feathers on the chicken" scene (and kudos for even hearing the line) since it was one of the final things on the storyboard. Tried to weave lots of Oz-guitar shots and lusty dancing into the thing because it fit the the song and the overall theme. Plus there's this part of the song that sounds like the Buffy theme, so I tried to use a shot from the opening credits (often dancing) each time it came up.

The swoopy time toggles were a total YouHomage. I'm not nearly as good at them as you, but I'm carefully watching how you use them. That camera movement to the Pack spin was another byproduct of that.

howling on that sustained note, going to him on the guitar holding the same note
The very first idea for the vid! The whole thing grew from that.

It's such a nice surprise that you enjoyed this. If you liked watching it and had fun with it (and it sounds like you did), then I'm a happy, happy man.
littleheaven70 on August 26th, 2006 06:31 am (UTC)
Here by way of obsessive24's rec. Just fantastic. Great use of pacing, especially the build towards the end. It's a recurring theme that's not usually highlighted - the beast within the men. I loved it.
bradcpubradcpu on August 26th, 2006 10:10 am (UTC)
Hey, thanks for letting me know you liked it! Pacing's a difficult, urm, animal to tame, so it's flattering to see that you enjoyed it here. (Hopefully you liked it enough to forgive that lame pun)
(no subject) - littleheaven70 on August 26th, 2006 11:15 am (UTC) (Expand)
lusciousxander: My puppylusciousxander on August 26th, 2006 10:45 am (UTC)
Ooooh that was amazing! My animal men are HOT especially Xander. ^_^
bradcpubradcpu on August 27th, 2006 09:18 pm (UTC)
I'm really glad you liked it! Thanks for letting me know.
Sharvie_sharvie_ on August 27th, 2006 09:17 am (UTC)
That vid kicked totally ass! There are so many things I liked about it, lots of little details, that you're the first person I'm going to need to give time stamp fb to! Especially since I have no clue how to explain half this stuff.

So many things I adored about this.

By the first 13 seconds I knew this was going to be cool. Loved the heartbeat blacks. And then the flashing Buffy leading to adorable Xander and the sound effect.
By :34 I've already sussed out that you're killer with the effects. Which btw, I'm the opposite of you. I'm a total whore for effects! So I can see very clearly you've got something that makes the screen jump forward with the twang of the guitar. I would adore it if you could share the secret of how you achieved such movement. I'm thinking zoom but to match it up to the music there and again for all the bits at the end must have taken you forever! Was there a trick where you saved a template and then dropped it in place?
:48 Ah, love the bottles of Spikeness. *squee*
1:11 The first time I recognize time change. Loved how the speed through the hallway is quick but time slows down as Oz tries to hold it together, then snaps forward with quick cuts. Loved that!
1:53 I missed it the first time I think because I was picking my jaw off the floor but this last time I saw Xander's hyena eyes! I really think you did an awesome job of lining up predator and regular eyes. I've tried something similar and boy howdy is it ever hard!
2:15 Ahh, the love that is the time effects. Like before with Oz but now with yummy Xander. I think I squeed out loud a little when I saw that.
Oz says Run! Yay! I love it when audio from the show fits in perfectly with a vid. Just so right!
2:29 The girls screaming lining up with the squeals of the guitar is priceless!
2:48 Dru's crab crawl with the quick squeaks. Fit perfectly!
2:56 Ozwolf howling with the music!
3:21 The Jenny stuff was wonderful. Loved how she's speeding down the hall adding to the frenetic beat. And then boom to the quick cuts and then right into the twangs. Still want to learn how to do that.
Just absolutely adored this! Can't squee enough! You totally rock.
bradcpubradcpu on August 27th, 2006 09:33 pm (UTC)
Wow, your first timestamps? I'm honored, _sharvie_. The main thing is that you enjoy it, and it sounds like you did. But I really appreciate you taking the time to tell me exactly why.

I knew it was important for the opening to be... abrupt (with just a touch of campy horror) and then go into super speed. Took a while to figure out how to do that. I was just hoping I didn't overthink it. Glad it worked!

I wish I had a time-saving trick for doing the heartbeat. No, it was all just tedious work. I found the bass behind the first guitar lick of each, cut the clip there, and did a five-frame zoom out from 110% to 100%. Then the same thing again for the next five frames, but as a half transparent overlay so that the second pump of the heartbeat would just a little more subtle.

I admit that I shamelessly ripped off the zoomy time-toggle stuff from obsessive24. She uses that technique so incredibly well.

It took some time to do the hyena eyes and the Dru finger-crawl (which required some pretty elaborate time toggle to make it fit), but those were definitely worth it after seeing your reaction.

Thank you so much for the wonderful comment. Like I said, I'm just glad you had fun with it.
(no subject) - _sharvie_ on August 30th, 2006 11:49 am (UTC) (Expand)
yourlibrarian: GiftVidders: ruugeryourlibrarian on August 29th, 2006 02:23 am (UTC)
I especially liked the beginning set-up of this, and all the eye shots. I enjoyed seeing the parallel clips too, such as the two shots of Spike drinking, the Buffy/Angel shots around 1:20, and the Spike and Angel shots around 2:45. Nicely put together.
bradcpubradcpu on August 30th, 2006 04:38 am (UTC)
Thanks very much. I puzzled over the beginning for a long time because I knew it needed to set the right tone; without that the whole vid falls apart. And the comparison shots were needed to smooth the flow, what with all the in-your-face flashitude. So I'm glad those two things seem to have worked.
kiki_miserychickiki_miserychic on August 29th, 2006 04:14 pm (UTC)
Keep the feathers on the chicken
One of the major themes of Buffy was that sex always leads to bad things, so that works well as another level.

:00-:04 - Cool opening with the heartbeats.
:05-:07 - Using buffy for that part is great because in a lot of ways, she's the common denominator.
:11-:14 - Cool use of time toggling and the drumbeats.
:16-:19 - Love the use of the eyes.
:20-:30's - Great use of the subjective camera and nice freeze framing and such.
:54 - Young Spike drinking and them going to Later Spike drinking was genius.
:50's - Nice added lighting on Angel.
1:20's - Nice time toggling and jump cuts.
1:44-1:53 - Awesome use of the drumbeats again.
2:38 - Excellent time toggling again and jump cuts.
2:57-3:00 - Yay for running with the music.
3:00's - Awesome video matching to sounds. I laughed and I hope that was your intention. If it wasn't I'm very weird.
3:30-3:35 - Nice having them, Veruca/Oz and Angel, come up, then change.
3:36-3:43 - Nice editing on the running, especially with the jump cutting at the end.
3:43-4:02 - Great "drumbeat vibrations" on the video. Very cool.
bradcpubradcpu on August 30th, 2006 04:49 am (UTC)
Re: Keep the feathers on the chicken
Hey there! Saw you posted a new vid and I'm looking forward to seeing how you surprise me this time. Just wish this dam fever would go away so I could think straight...

Glad you liked mine. It's a relief that you weren't put off by the effects and editing tricks. Most of that stuff is very new to me and not at all instinctive, so I had no idea how people would react. I thought some of these things might come across as overboard, but I kind of felt like this vid needed to go overboard to carry the theme.

And feel free to laugh at the bridge with the guitar solo. I wanted the vid to be sort of a cheesy dark comedy that's funny right up until the last 30 secs or so.

Also very happy to see you like the heartbeat effect at the end. That seems to be the most contentious of the effects that I used, but I don't regret it.
Re: Keep the feathers on the chicken - kiki_miserychic on August 30th, 2006 05:07 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Keep the feathers on the chicken - bradcpu on August 30th, 2006 06:03 am (UTC) (Expand)
Re: Keep the feathers on the chicken - kiki_miserychic on August 30th, 2006 07:47 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Lit Gallit_gal on August 30th, 2006 03:46 am (UTC)
Oh wow. I don't do vids, so I can't say anything articulate about the craft or the artistic choices. I can only say that I loved it, and I really felt that raw primal power all through it. I adored how you pulled all four guys in, showing their raw sides. Makes me want to write dirty fic.
bradcpubradcpu on August 30th, 2006 04:40 am (UTC)
I can only say that I loved it, and I really felt that raw primal power all through it.

I can't imagine a better kind of feedback. The main thing is that I just want everyone to enjoy the vid, you know? So I really appreciate you saying so.
Dualbunnydualbunny on August 30th, 2006 10:19 pm (UTC)
This is very cool--fantastic parallels being drawn. Love the idea behind it and the execution makes the footage seem incredibly fresh. :D And I *adore* how Buffy's walk in the beginning really starts cranking the tension up right off the bat. And how you used the guitar squeaks/squeals! They were absolutely perfect.
bradcpubradcpu on August 31st, 2006 04:46 am (UTC)
Wow, I'm thrilled you liked it! Any compliment from you is heady stuff, but this one in particular was just so... out there. More than any vid I've done, this one was about totally committing to the theme visually and not looking back. That's a frightening thing to do. So it's incredibly reassuring to read this. Thank you so much!
thedothatgirl: broodthedothatgirl on September 1st, 2006 07:52 pm (UTC)
Fekking amazing. Be back with all the details tomorrow. (I've got the song in my head now).....
bradcpubradcpu on September 1st, 2006 08:24 pm (UTC)
Hey! Glad you enjoyed it! The song's pretty catchy, isn't it?
(no subject) - thedothatgirl on September 2nd, 2006 03:55 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - bradcpu on September 3rd, 2006 04:41 am (UTC) (Expand)
DC: zeldabananainpyjamas on September 3rd, 2006 06:25 pm (UTC)
I made it!!!! Submissions at the FNVAs finally slowed down so now I have time for some quick feedbacking. =D

Awesome heartbeat intro. Nice way of introducing all the guys and building tension at the same time. I also really like the use of that shoulder shot in time with the music around 0:10. And that dialogue. XD Interesting, that.

The overall use of effects was really cool. I like the on-beat rumble frames like at 0:28 and the use of freeze frames as well. And of course the colorization effect flowed nicely with the feel of the music and the clips. Flashy? Maybe. ;) But much more subdued than what I had expected, based on your LJ entry about it.

0:56 - haha, love the clip-lyric match about "love inside the kitchen" and "you can feed me anything." Spike's expression is just gold.

Really, a ton of the clip-lyric matches in here were just so clever. Even without context I think I was able to get a lot of them.

1:14 - Great use of stutter cuts in time with the music.

1:29 - Really liked the on-beat overlays.

2:11 - Again, awesome use of time toggle and stutter cuts. Combined they made for an awesome transition into the chorus.

2:38-2:59 - LOL. Oh man this bridge was just awesome. Totally on-point use of the odd notes in the music. My favorite was the werewolf howl at 2:56

And again, I really liked the rumble-frame-type effect at the end. This was a really fun vid to watch! I think it would make a great entry at the FNVAs, but eh, that's just my opinion. ;)
bradcpubradcpu on September 3rd, 2006 10:26 pm (UTC)
Hey, I'm glad you got caught up on the FNVAs. Can't wait to see how that comes out. As always, please don't stress about FB for my vids. I just want you to enjoy them. I know how it feels though... I'm just starting to get caught up on the dozens and dozens that I missed while finishing this vid.

The opening was probably the most offbeat part of the creative process for me. At times as I was putting it together, I'd stop and look at it and say "what the hell am I doing?" I just knew I wanted it all to be built around that "Buff give me a heart attack/I'll give you more than that" line that's echoed later in the song... and that seems like a simple concept. But you can't just start it that way because it looks too abrupt, plus there are other characters and elements to weave in. Hopefully this solution was "just crazy enough to work." Heh.

I'm completely geeking out that you liked the lyric matches. Listening to the song for the first time in the context of the fandom and concept, most of those lyric matches just screamed to be made. Especially the Spike stuff ("you can tie me to a chair/skin and bones/I don't care" and so on). So those were really fun to do - and were a big reason why the vid got made.

Also glad you liked the zoom effects to the beat. I was trying to bring out the "heartbeat" sound of the music and use that as the theme throughout because of the dialogue that opens the vid and the refrain that ends it.

I'm actually unsure whether or not I'm going to keep entering vid awards. But I might submit this one at some point just as an excuse to link you. :)
(no subject) - bananainpyjamas on September 4th, 2006 03:47 am (UTC) (Expand)