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23 July 2010 @ 07:30 pm
Ah, You Tube  
I joined You Tube a few months back and uploaded (among other things) Living Dead Girl, after dozens of people had downloaded it from my site, uploaded it to YT, and took credit for it over the past several years (with everywhere from 500 views to 3,000 views to 17,000 views. So today I get this gem of a reply to my upload of Living Dead Girl on You Tube:

"@bradcpuvids How could you have made this? I watched this on here like...2 years before you posted it haha"

sigh. Oh, You Tube.
 
 
 
giandujakiss: Scullygiandujakiss on July 24th, 2010 12:34 am (UTC)
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bradcpu: Zoidberg hookbradcpu on July 24th, 2010 12:36 am (UTC)
Rarely have I seen such an appropriate icon.
Ferd: Batman- slap a bitchferdalump on July 24th, 2010 12:37 am (UTC)
Oh man!! That had to sting. Rahhh! >:( I totally hate youtube for crap like that. I had someone leave an asshat comment like that to me on my Kermit Bale vid and I was like o_O!

It's sad because even as a vidder if you try to avoid putting your vids youtube, they end up there inevitably. I try to just go there from the start, but they still seem to get ripped off and uploaded again by random people. You can't win. :\

bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 12:46 am (UTC)
I try to just go there from the start, but they still seem to get ripped off and uploaded again by random people
Yeah, I know just what you mean.

I actually joined YT way back in late 2007 and uploaded Living Dead Girl (around the same time as some of these other people), but my account was deleted and my email address was banned for copyright infringement. And yet these other people not only didn't get banned, they still have my vid on their page all these years later.

Just comes with the territory as a vidder, I suppose. It usually doesn't upset me. If they need praise so badly they're willing to take empty credit for someone's work, then they obviously need it worse than I do. But that comment was just so incredibly ironic today. Wow.
(no subject) - laurashapiro on July 24th, 2010 03:31 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - bradcpu on July 24th, 2010 02:57 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - laurashapiro on July 24th, 2010 04:13 pm (UTC) (Expand)
cathexyscathexys on July 24th, 2010 12:47 am (UTC)
Oh man...i kinda hate youtube culture and then i feel guilty for hating it :)
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 12:55 am (UTC)
Heh, well I think it's more about individuals than the culture as a whole. The problem is that there are just *so many* people some times it feels like the Wild West.
(no subject) - mresundance on July 24th, 2010 03:13 am (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - bradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:14 pm (UTC) (Expand)
kiki_miserychickiki_miserychic on July 24th, 2010 01:01 am (UTC)
with logic like that
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 02:58 pm (UTC)
Re: with logic like that
I think that qualifies as an epic eyeroll.
Re: with logic like that - kiki_miserychic on July 24th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC) (Expand)
klia: eeeeeklia on July 24th, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)
Just... ugh.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 02:59 pm (UTC)
Yep. The whole situation is pretty... well, you know.
Little Heaven: Scrubs Clear!! by phaust_iconslittleheaven70 on July 24th, 2010 01:13 am (UTC)
Dr Cox says it all.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 02:59 pm (UTC)
LOL! And, aww, thanks for the comment. :) I have a voucher! The person actually replied and basically reversed course.
(no subject) - littleheaven70 on July 24th, 2010 09:44 pm (UTC) (Expand)
jarrow: sn-dan_thats_two_babyjarrow on July 24th, 2010 01:18 am (UTC)
...How could you be posting about this vid now? My friend made it, like, 3 years ago haha.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:01 pm (UTC)
LOL totes. I keep trying to track the creative rights in my head - source artists/creators, vidder, youtuber, vidder... then I get confused and need to lie down.
gwyneth: stabbity guy tribadesgwyn_r on July 24th, 2010 01:26 am (UTC)
Oh God. Urge to kill would be overwhelming.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:03 pm (UTC)
ICON! =)

It's such a bizarre situation because as a vidder I have no rights anyway, but wow. This whole thing is kind of like the really bitter cherry on top.
the sundance kid: bored now / whatevermresundance on July 24th, 2010 03:09 am (UTC)
Oh man, ouch. This is kinda why I've always kept a presence on youtube (aside from the fact that it's very accessible and easy to use). I can kinda keep tabs on MY vids that way - not that I am too precious about it, mind. But yeah. That's just saaaad.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:05 pm (UTC)
Yeah, as I was telling Ferd, I created a YT account back in late 2007 and uploaded Living Dead Girl (around the same time as these other people), and within a few weeks my account was deleted and my email address was banned for copyright infringement. And yet so many of the other people who uploaded *my* vid not only got to keep their account, they still have my vid uploaded all these years later.

I realize that as a vidder I really have no legal rights, but this whole situation is just such a gut punch.
chasa: sighchasarumba on July 24th, 2010 03:23 am (UTC)
"haha"

Indeed, YouTube in a nutshell.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:06 pm (UTC)
It's so funny, like watching through the bars at the zoo. Less funny when you get thrown into the cage with them. :P
Laura Shapirolaurashapiro on July 24th, 2010 03:33 am (UTC)
So annoying. But I don't know, you could make lemonade by reading the bazillion comments the vid has already received -- or just be delighted that it's been seen 17,000 times! I'd love to make a vid that popular, even if I wasn't getting credit for it.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:07 pm (UTC)
Oh, I do! I mean, I have. For years that has been my approach. It's just that this comment was so spectacularly ironic that it just stung a bit, and then came the sighing.
(no subject) - laurashapiro on July 24th, 2010 04:14 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Anoel: dw master arms in airanoel on July 24th, 2010 05:11 am (UTC)
Any chance you can email those users and ask them to take the vid down since you have your own account now and it's uploaded there? Who knows if they'll listen but it's worth a shot.

But yeah, that's annoying.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:08 pm (UTC)
I've tried contacting some of those users before. They don't reply. And then if I comment on the vid, they delete my comment or just turn off comments altogether.
buffyannbuffyann on July 24th, 2010 07:42 am (UTC)
I'd rather laugh :D
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:08 pm (UTC)
Me too. Can I laugh, please?
thedothatgirl: animatedangelconfusedthedothatgirl on July 24th, 2010 07:57 am (UTC)
Gah - sums up Youtube to a T. Happened to me on a Buffy NING group too.

I caved and put a random selection on there a couple of years ago, much a case of can't beat 'em, join 'em. Seeing as most of my vids were on youtube - either in pieces, with different soundtracks or just the whole vids, I thought I might as well.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:10 pm (UTC)
I caved and put a random selection on there a couple of years ago, much a case of can't beat 'em, join 'em
That's the same reason I joined YT again recently (well... that, and the fact that the quality is much better now than it was in 2007, when I originally joined.)

I usually don't mind at all that I have virtually no rights or control over my vids as a creator, but this comment was just kind of an "ouch" moment.
Zohar: whatbunnythenavia on July 24th, 2010 12:06 pm (UTC)
Apparently when you post something online it's no longer yours o.O

I actually laughed out loud.
bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)
Apparently when you post something online it's no longer yours
LOL, true! And usually I don't mind that. But sometimes I just have to sigh and shake my head.
Balistik: into the wild 2balistik94 on July 24th, 2010 03:30 pm (UTC)
I still don't understand why people take credit for other people's vids. They don't get paid so it must be for the glory but after a while all that undeserved praise would make most people feel nauseous.
bradcpu: Bender Mehbradcpu on July 24th, 2010 04:16 pm (UTC)
Meh. I've always thought that if they needed praise bad enough that they were willing to take credit for my work, then they need the attention more than I do. But that comment about how I was ripping *them* off was just so ironic I couldn't help but shake my head.
DC: Final Fantasy VIII - Quistisbananainpyjamas on July 24th, 2010 05:25 pm (UTC)
I gave that comment a thumbs down! Hmph.
bradcpu: My medalbradcpu on July 24th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
Adam Sessler gives that comment one star.... out of five.
Phil: bendervchrusch on July 24th, 2010 06:00 pm (UTC)
Vids did not exist prior to 2005. This is fandom's version of Creationism.

bradcpubradcpu on July 24th, 2010 08:36 pm (UTC)
And no vids existed before they were uploaded to You Tube. Because every vid goes straight from the editing program to You Tube automatically.
(no subject) - vchrusch on July 24th, 2010 10:12 pm (UTC) (Expand)
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(no subject) - bradcpu on July 25th, 2010 09:10 pm (UTC) (Expand)
cozzybob: firefly - jayne - dohcozzybob on July 24th, 2010 11:51 pm (UTC)
Wow. :(

*hugs*
bradcpubradcpu on July 25th, 2010 02:11 pm (UTC)
Hee, Jayne hat makes it all better!
Emmieangearia on July 25th, 2010 01:03 am (UTC)
What idiots. That vid of yours is brilliant!
bradcpubradcpu on July 25th, 2010 02:12 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much! It's my favorite character in fandom and the concept is a big reason why I got into vidding, so I'm really glad that it's gone over as well as it has.
deejay/"alvafan": otbwdeejay on July 25th, 2010 03:26 pm (UTC)
... but ... but ... I made my first vid in 1989.

Of course, it may just have been all those drugs I was taking at the time....

*insert blank stare here*
bradcpubradcpu on July 25th, 2010 03:39 pm (UTC)
Re:
Dude. I've seen your vids. Clearly you're still on drugs. :)
(no subject) - deejay on July 25th, 2010 08:32 pm (UTC) (Expand)
JackieKjonojackiekjono on July 25th, 2010 04:08 pm (UTC)
Brad, I don't know what is sadder. that this crap happens to you or that I am jealous because nobody thinks my vids are good enough to rip off and claim credit for.

*cries*

I am really a pathetic little person.
bradcpubradcpu on July 25th, 2010 07:20 pm (UTC)
Want me to rip you off? I'll totally do it. :)

I usually get flattered when someone uploads one of my vids, but I just thought this person's comment was so head-shakingly ironic.
Luminosity: TEXT-facepalmsockkpuppett on July 25th, 2010 05:15 pm (UTC)
I got a youtube account less than a year ago. All sorts of my stuff has been put up there by other people. Sometimes they credit me, and sometimes they don't. It's exasperating, especially since I made a lot of vids when vidding was without form and void, and darkness was over the face of the deep--I mean youtube.
bradcpubradcpu on July 25th, 2010 07:21 pm (UTC)
Video existed before You Tube?
(no subject) - jackiekjono on July 25th, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Cherrycherryice on July 26th, 2010 03:00 am (UTC)
Ahahah, logic! Logic is clearly not everyone's friend. Sometimes, the internet makes me sad. Sometimes it makes me laugh. I try to divert the former into the later whenever possible.

Though, not going to lie, if it happened to me I'd probably be (in part) pretty flattered and vicariously enjoy the playcounts and comments. *G*
bradcpubradcpu on July 26th, 2010 02:16 pm (UTC)
Sometimes, the internet makes me sad
LOL, that reminds me of that Anya quote from Buffy - "I go on the internet sometimes, but the spelling is so bad. It's depressing."

I usually am very flattered by ripped-off vids and views, it's just that this was such an ironic comment I had to headdesk.